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The idea that Zionism is "oriented toward the future rather than the past" is laughable. The project of settling the West Bank (sorry, "Juda and Samaria") with Jewish Israelis has been ongoing for as long as I have been alive and has only gathered steam in the last quarter century.

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Wow. It is worthwhile at times to examine the arguments of people who have thought themselves into a deep hole in service of their priors. Two aphorisms came to mind considering Newhouse's arguments: "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" and "just-so stories". I would not have had the patience Millman showed in this post.

My 15 year old son hasn't had time to build elaborate sand castles defending his priors, yet his experience answers some of Newhouse's questions.

Why are kids these days more concerned about Israeli actions than those of other countries? The destruction of Gaza. With the Gaza/10-6 death ratio around 60 no amount of invoking the horrors of 10-6 persuades them on the merits. Top of mind is the reality that we supplied many of the huge bombs used to level apartment buildings. He and his cohorts care because their government is complicit in war crimes.

Why is he skeptical of Zionism? The tension Millman points out is immediately obvious to him. If Jews get a homeland what about Palestinians? Because the bible says so?

Envy of Israel? Wow. That is some deep self-deception.

No mental gymnastics are needed. So long as Israel seemed interested in a two-state solution it was possible to see the situation as an extremely tough problem between two peoples with wildly divergent perceptions of history who nonetheless accept a homeland for both peoples is the only humane solution. That is finished. Israel no longer even pretends that is the goal. The hapless and corrupt PA would still enter into talks, but as the Israelis used to say you need a counterparty to negotiate.

An enormous amount of the appeal of Israel to me and my cohort was my understanding of Israel vs. the Arab States as a David vs. Goliath story (1948, 6-Day & Yom Kippur Wars) where Israel was David. I now know my knowledge of history was flawed, but I wholly bought it. Now Israel is Goliath and people who cling to the myth seem either out of touch or hopelessly parochial.

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