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Forrest Arnold's avatar

On your distinction between good and great, I think on a personal level, it makes sense to strive to be a good man rather than a great man. In that sense those two descriptors are opposed to each other and can be difficult to consolidate.

I would venture to say as a society we're drifting more towards electing 'good' leaders rather than 'great' ones. Good is the goal of person, great is the goal of a president. When you see the moral gaffes perpetrated by our 'greatest' presidents (at least in retrospect), it's evident that we can't expect them to be both.

Leaders should be directed by principles of morality, but if a people are then it should free them up to aim at 'great'.

Enjoyed the article!

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Max's avatar

re "You may not agree with the course he set the nation on—indeed, you may think that course was evil—but you can’t deny that he shaped history enduringly. If that’s not greatness, I don’t really know what the word means."

I dunno, that means if someone single-handedly destroyed the nation, they have to be judged "great" on the basis of having had a large impact on history. Which I get if the list is "most influential". But that doesn't meet a common sense description of "great president", I don't think, which includes some notion of "was that person's impact positive".

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